Today's topic is a very broadly that race has given sport where do we go with that while that's what we have an esteemed panel here. To help -- -- we've got Peter Roby the athletic director at Northeastern University we've got Bob -- the five columnist from the Boston Globe and Cedric Maxwell. Fine former Celtic player whose name had numbers in the rafters for the numbers and the Raptors. OK here racism in sports they can be anything can be high school sports college or pro sports. Does that still exist and to what degree. Course at -- as it exists in society and sport is all part of our society and we are still socialized to think differently about folks that look different than us and we make assumptions. And we've got to continue to educate people to appreciate difference in all its forms and its value and what it brings to our society. I know that's what we try to do it northeastern one of our core values is is the appreciation the difference in all its forms. And you know we've got to use sport it's ironic that that question is asked the way it is because. In in reality sport is one of those places where we can break down those barriers that we have to play together. And you see all -- images on television where guys are hugging each other and coming together as a team and pulling for each other and race is irrelevant. But is there racism in sport of course the fact that we don't have the number of African Americans in positions of leadership throughout sport. Still suggest that it's not a meritocracy. And it's been. Influenced by peoples of social constructs and we have to change that. Fullbacks -- -- come back here because he sits up in a while ago about you know playing for the Celtics and the perception is you're playing on the white team black and a white teams so. -- talk about playing with this team we have tremendous front line he had Mikhail and you had cherish you have bird. -- on that team some of the bench guys are -- you guys in black players on the team. Chemistry wise in the court there was never a problem I mean there's so when you say Celtic basketball that being something people that's flawless basketball. Did you guys. Connect off the court and if not lineup. -- we did. Because I think we're all different individuals. And in a lot so that they people. Want to give the shortcomings about racism and all the things can go along with it I guess I always go back to Europe that when I was in when. Yet I could not go to a restaurant and I could not eat -- my family because I wish I was in the year where there was a colored map room and in the with the white only dressing room and so. I see a lot of different things have changed. A -- things that kind of the same grove North Carolina North Carolina so -- throughout the self that that was how it was. And so I think the way we we look at things now. So much more different. It's like there isn't any more count black music no more. He'll pop his kind of replaced everything so. It is -- -- to their guys together that's what I think it is much of -- don't like hip hop I -- about the guy like Jay-Z who bring so many people together. In one avenue war music just pure music. So there is still still going to be racism there will always be racism as long as we. We look at people's the color people -- and that will never change. I think one of the things we have to do is try to minimize that. Is that when you were in sports in your team and you play together on their floor. There's nothing as beautiful as guys played together and winning in all of -- that at the thirtieth. And then when she walked off the field. I think that's when things kind of go back the way they were black players can do their own thing what players who don't they. That is what we have to count that change your perception at that. Andy I'm shocked that you like hip hop -- -- -- throughout Denver nightclub that time amusing I had a legend like we have a great time they -- -- -- it. I don't know what you would think about -- Obviously me and Michael are different ages at -- he doesn't he have a look good the end and blood and I have a listen a little below par putt -- Michael Moore and -- your religion he's picked it. The arbitrator. Under appreciated I have felt quick story. May have meant they mean out of told him but he is -- is 72 as we're gonna Minor League Baseball book. I spent four days in Kansas and North Carolina the tournament so somewhere near the young Kevin -- to Cedric Maxwell was you know was was lurking about. But -- I came home for the people I've just spent four days and -- -- -- that that as will move northern white should understand because. There's it -- side of the tracks and attack the -- is so clear dividend it's sparkling. That when you plus it would distract you see the difference in the in the all the combinations all the all the all the structures all the things that that -- to look at so that's his hometown of his legacy of that they took the opportunity to play an opportunity to get -- baseball basketball football. I think are pretty clear their color blind now amid a dirt there's we did. Opportunities abound and and and -- dominated by by black people. Baseball -- is -- the sport where they're dying to attract. Black players they would welcome more black players but let's talk about what no white person. Good he should be so we Motley naive ridiculously naive as to think that would that would -- racial society when we look at the National Hockey League with a hockey -- not because for this reason you think that any black player in that league and he has we will tell you will that. The the these words and stuff that yelled at him and has been yelled over the years in different places he's played clean right now now -- And -- the few black players at the -- all can tell you about what it means to be by permanently now and I think all hockey fans racist no way of saying that there's a lot of people out there that like the idea that this sport is how we're a sport and you know -- the invasion of -- -- Parcells in in European soccer. You know there's still things coming up and then this week about players still being taunted with racial epithets and all I saw. And we still have work to do no doubt about.