I'm now down -- brought by the Chevrolet Silverado HD out who's left. Only seven Patriots on the active roster played in that 2008 Super Bowl against the Giants Tom Brady Kevin Faulk Matt Light Logan Mankins Wes Welker. Vince Wilfork -- guest house and two others who are inactive right now on the IR get open Mike Wright. Also there there are fourteen guys. For the Giants so here we are few restaurants Patriot place hotel and. On fox are joined now by pitchers insider for CS NNE dot com Tommy attorney Tom. Patriots and Giants kind of like look into the mirror and I think you start with the quarterbacks and obviously Brady's done more his career but these two guys are a pretty high level. Yeah I mean when you look at Eli Manning and Tom Brady you have two players who played. In the top five at their position in 2011 is that an incredible amount about whether or not you -- meaning should have the adjective but we attached to. More than one adjective you'd ever enter into. Guys to 25 interceptions last year to -- -- -- you have to do here here here we're obviously it's released and -- Do you start before that because you let me and it puts up numbers shows incredible toughness in the pocket like it's extremely productive. And it's not just the quarterback it's also the character and resiliency the both of these teams that don't they just had to come back from deficits to Giants on the road I mean. These teams to get here they -- -- yeah and I think the 2010 edition of the Patriots were it was kind of a front running team that was fourteen into that they didn't feel very. It was 2019 just wasn't mentally tough this team is much more similar to the Giants who I would say have been a tougher and more resilient team. Really over the course of Tom Coughlin. Latter portion of his tenure in New York they really have that. First period it races I think. The guys on -- via. -- yeah like snap him out on the and I I like the coaches want to get what these guys spell check. And of course scoffed when they come. From the Bill Parcells coaching -- They do and you know I wrote that today it to a degree that might be oversimplifying especially in the case of Bill Belichick because if you really wanted to -- it back. Might have to take him all the way back to Paul Brown you're -- -- from. But certainly both guys will with Parcells in New York they weren't specifically do we think we weren't how they wanted to use their hands on here. And what not to do with here. Players and employees so fast there what's -- -- -- -- respect -- under Belichick and bat I was greatly. Very old school guys I kind of appreciated that in the modern naral pro football now. Yeah I mean when you look at it a lot of the guys who were young guys were celebrating just two years ago -- Josh McDaniels and Steve Spagnuolo and Raheem Morris. -- the -- and now it. That guys old guys especially off and I write oh I mean that this team if you look back and and that's something I wrote about today people of two -- -- Patriots got -- -- -- -- touchdown -- Billy Cundiff hooked a field goal -- lucky will look back at week. Fourteen I believe win Miles Austin was over shot by Tony Romo. In a game that would have dropped the New York Giants to six and seven would have in the fifth consecutive plus that team they ended up winning that game would've won the division without it. That's yet in his -- and -- couldn't get fired they don't make the playoffs and it's -- -- on the base to not make a class.